My budget is $700 (slightly flexible). An Edison Standard Phonograph, Details. The first Amberola was a large, heavy, expensive upright floor model incorporating the mechanism of the Opera open horn phonograph, a high-end model situated above the Triumph in the Edison open horn line; neither the Opera nor the derivative Amberola is frequently encountered today, and both usually command pretty elevated prices, just as they did when new. Description. "You Get What You Pay For" Dept. For an extra 5$ the improved "Automatic" Reproducer could be substituted. Original Steel Edison 2/4 Min Reproducer Model O for Edison Phonograph. 8h 2m left (Today 05:11 p.m.) +C $23.25 shipping from United States Sponsored c. 1898 Edison Standard Model A Phonograph (2 Clips) Pre-Owned C $1,346.84 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Jan 05, 2023 A Peter Pan Gramophone Player, 15. In late 1912, the Model F did away with two-minute gearing. If you're familiar with Leica cameras, you probably have seen that "Leica Family Tree" poster with a host of derivative models branching off in various lines from a single "Ur Leica" prototype. A World of Antique Phonographs by Timothy C. Fabrizio and George F. Paul. The Edison Standard Phonograph Combination Type (Type D) was produced between October 1908 and November 1911. Celluloid cylinders are durable, but their wax predecessors are extremely fragile, and playing them with the wrong equipment can quickly destroy them. However, before the Model F made its appearance, Edison had clients that wanted to buy a Phonograph that was 2-and-4 minute capable. So common and popular is this model, in fact, that an entire website has been created devoted to it: https://www.antiquephono.org/spotters-guide-edison-standard-phonograph/. Antique Phonograph Society www.antiquephono.org. In view of that fact, it isn't astonishing that our best ager models in the age of 35+ are enjoying growing popularity. The earlier models equipped with end gates do not have this issue. . The company intended it to serve at the price point originally filled by the Standard, whose cost had crept up with inflation. Edison made two clips Edison standards thru aprox. Edison Standard Cylinder Model A Phonograph. Consulting manufacturers' catalogs and pictorial identification guides are critical in determining if a phonograph is consistent with how it came off the assembly line. While somewhat smaller than the Standard, the Fireside shared a nearly identical single-spring motor. connector tube between horn and reproducer Fits most Edison DISC (thick record) models. An Edison Standard phonograph . The Amberola 50 was a larger tabletop machine for four-minute celluloid cylinders, mechanically differering from the Amberola 30 only in having a two-spring motor. Here's a quick rundown of the principal models you're likely to encounter. It was introduced in 1898, made in great quantities and sold well. WorthPoint is the largest resource online for identifying, researching and valuing antiques. Two CDs complete the list with 29040-29077. There were some complains on the two clips as the cases separated while carrying them and broke the phonograph. Care to hear a fine Edison cylinder player strut its stuff? This machine is . The Model A was equipped with 2/4-minute gearing and a small paneled horn modeled on that for the Gem; the Model B with four-minute gearing only and a cygnet horn. Copyright 2018 David Hoehl - drh@tnt-audio.com - www.tnt-audio.com, [ Home | Staff & Contacts | HiFi Playground | Listening tests | DIY & Tweakings | Music & EDISON PHONOGRAPH HANDLE FOR THE STANDARD AND HOME +++ PHONOGRAPH, PHONOGRAPH EDISON STANDARD OR HOME PHONOGRAPH CRANK, Edison Phonograph Lid - For Edison Standard Phonograph - Great Condition, EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH MODEL A AND B MANDREL. Antique Standard Metal Co Phonograph Horn W/ Stand 32\"x17\" Flowers Edison: $329.00. 1915 Edison Model A100 Phonograph This player features an automatic stop mechanism and volume control. Better yet, it also provided concealed storage for the records--no more messy piles of the things left out on table tops--and for the playing mechanism--no more industrial-look gears and gearshifts and feedscrews and whatnot on pominent display in the parlor. here is a nice original edison phonograph 2 and 4 minute model 204177293180 EDISON PHONOGRAPH MODEL K 2/4Min REPRODUCER , A VERY NICE REPRODUCER - $405.54. I replaced the diaphragm (and gasket) with a new glass diaphragm expertly remanufactured by Norman Bruderhofer in Germany (pict.s 21-23). Thomas A. EdisonNational Phonograph Co.Orange, New Jerseyc. For a phonograph to be considered complete, it must be housed in its period cabinet. Edison Standard Phonograph - with Model 'C' Reproducer. Edison Standard Cylinder Model D Phonograph. Find your remarkable and trustworthy senior model for your event in our model file and address potential, keen to consume customers at the age bracket 50 plus. In 1878, he patented the device and made about 500 machines before turning his attention to the light bulb. Picture Information. Cabinets divide into consoles (upright phonograph), tabletop phonographs, entertainment center (radio combined with a record player or another electronic device), and portable phonographs. These machines, too, are relatively uncommon and expensive today. We have rebuilt the reproducer for optimum sound quality. Includes a diagram of each part of the motor as well as the topworks. This phonograph is in great condition and plays! Time left: 1d 13h | Starting bid: US $350.00 [ 0 bids] Approximately C $471.76. Plus size models I believe that these all belong to an Edison Standard model cylinder phonograph. . Eldridge R. Johnson to the rescue! Serial #703571D : such devices will reproduce cylinders electrically, but the mechanism turning them will still be a century or so old; I've never tried one of the electrical reproducer substitutes personally, but any spring-wound phonograph motor is a dense thicket of whirling shafts and wheels and weights and gears. (Years later, as his company was breathing its dying gasps, Edison's answer to Victor's new line of "Orthophonic" Victrolas would be the "Edisonic," but that's a story for another day.). The Edison Standard cylinder phonograph was one of Edison's most popular phonographs for the middle income market. EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH 2 clip suitcase version Model B Standard Single spring motor. The Standard series had not one but two four-minute-only models, Model E and Model G; curiously, model F, released simultaneously with Model E in 1909, retained the 2/4-minute gearing. Curiously, the results, if the machine is well maintained and the record is in good condition and well recorded, can be quite vivid. This is a 2 and 4 minute machine. oak. Also like the Triumph, the Home went through a series of models, albeit ending in F rather than G; the end gate disappeared with Model C, and factory 2/4-minute gearing made its debut with Model D (see photo, left) in early and late 1908, respectively. At a price point accessible to the middle class, the Edison standard phonograph was a popular make and model from the late 19th century through the early 20th century. It used a spring-driven motor to rotate a hard wax recording cylinder. There also is a viable secondary market in phonograph accessories and parts. The phonograph invented by Thomas Alva Edison [1847-1931] in 1877, in the beginning was used as a business dictation device and was rented for amusement in "phonograph parlors". The Edison Phonograph Works was very responsive to its customers. Edison's Standard phonograph was introduced in 1898 and for the next 16 years went through eight modifications. Reproducer is a four minute model H. The reproducer featured a diamond stylus which, together with its heavy tracking force, made it unsuitable for any except celluloid cylinders, and the gearing was limited to the four-minute type. Watch the 4.3MB! Prices for the phonographs had considerably diminished from its early days of $150 (in 1891) down to $20 for the Standard model and $7.50 for a model known as the Gem, introduced . Here is a wonderful Standard Metal phonograph horn, this horn comes from a local collection we are helping to liquidate. If most Edison collectors aspire to a Triumph, they very frequently start with a Standard, more often than not probably the Model B, just as I did. and here to mycraigslistads (stay tuned) Edison Standard Phonograph, Serial # S192399. Horn measures 32\" long by 17\" wide. For this restoration, the motor was cleaned and lubricated and the platter felt and grille cloth were replaced. All had a small single-spring motor whose lack of a spring barrel meant they could not be wound while playing. Oddly enough, the first variant of the Model A, without the oak additions, had no end gate for the mandrel, but Edison added one together with the wooden cover. Cases were invariably oak and neither model of the Fireside had an end gate. As an upgrade I offer also a pair of listening tubes, professionally reproduced by Jean-Paul Agnard (ref.3). Missing: Over the years, Edison offered the Triumph in seven variants, or models; Model A and Model B had end gates; Model C, introduced in the United States in February 1908, through the final Model G dispensed with this feature. Unlike either, the Standard featured a feed screw mounted not coaxially but behind and parallel to the mandrel, powered by a gear train from the mandrel's axle. Acoustically, it was a bit better on account of a somewhat larger horn, also concealed behind a cloth-backed wooden grille and also incorporating no mechanism for volume control. Condition: Used Used. The III looked like a table model on long stilts, with a shelf down by the floor to hold several storage boxes provided as separate accessories. manufactured before 4-minute cylinders ever came out. The equivalent for large carrier eyes is the Model N. The combination models K, S, and O/Q mentioned above would also be fine, as would the Model R, a reproducer featuring the large diaphragm of the later, horizontally mounted models in a body designed to fit the earlier, smaller slanted carrier eyes. ^^The phonograph was invented in 1877 by Thomas Edison.^^ While other inventors had produced devices that could record sounds, Edison's phonograph was the first to be able to reproduce the recorded sound.^^ His phonograph originally recorded sound onto a tinfoil sheet wrapped around a rotating cylinder.^^ A stylus responding to sound vibrations produced an up and down or hill-and-dale groove . Condition: Used Used. The heavy weight of the reproducer and its high serial number 188516 are typical for a later version, adapted to play cylinders made from carnauba wax, that was harder than brown wax. Edison Cylinder Phonograph Companion by George L. Frow. I'll not add much more about this model. The Gem was the bottom model in Edison's line, an inexpensive machine designed for those on a restricted budget. Click to enlarge. Books ]. A phonograph, in its later forms also called a gramophone (as a trademark since 1887, as a generic name in the UK since 1910) or since the 1940s called a record player, or more recently a turntable, is a device for the mechanical and analogue recording and reproduction of sound.The sound vibration waveforms are recorded as corresponding . Like the Amberola 50, it was available in oak or mahogany, and, as with the Amberola 50, oak cabinets sell at a premium today, having been less popular when the machines were new. The edison Model H reproducer was designed to play these records and is often found equipping open horn machines with four-minute gearing and the small carrier eye. The Fireside was a relatively late addition to the Edison line, introduced in 1909. 1) Edison Home Model A, c. 1903, for 2-minute cylinders, serial no. It requires a high level of expertise to determine the precise classification into which a phonograph belongs. If fitted with appropriate reproducer and gearing, any open-horn machine can play any type of cylinder. A single door below the horn opening concealed three pull-out trays, taken together providing storage for up to 84 cylinders. Either shape of weight would be fine for celluloid cylinders. 1899 Edison Standard 2 Clip Square Box Cylinder Phonograph w/Model C. AU $440.00 + AU $137.12 postage. $850.00 + shipping. Check out our edison phonograph standard selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. It used a spring-driven motor to rotate a hard wax recording cylinder. The company's intentions notwithstanding, the Fireside failed to supplant the Standard until relatively late, although it remained on sale after deletion of most other open horn cylinder machines; Firesides therefore generally speaking do not turn up as frequently as Standards, and accordingly they tend to be somewhat more expensive. In 1906, he and his Victor Talking Machine Company issued an audio product as influential in its day as the iPod has been in ours: the Victrola, a (naturally, disk-playing) reproducing instrument housed in a handsome, high-grade floor-standing piece of furniture and--here's the important part--enclosing that eyesore horn in the cabinet, the opening safely covered by swinging doors when not in use or when the owner needed to respond to his wife's inevitable cries of "that thing is too loud." Second, it served as a sort of mechanical amplifier: the heavier the weight, the louder the reproduction. Edison next added another, lighter upright floor model called the Amberola III (the first is retroactively known as the Amberola I; there was no Amberola II). The company removed it again in the Model C, added 2/4-minute gearing in the Model D of 1909, and removed the two-minute gearing in the final Model E of 1912. flash movie by clicking on pict.38, and see and hear the phonograph play the 1908 Gold-Moulded Edison record No.10074 "Policeman O'Reilly On Duty" with Steve C. Porter as policeman. Safely mating cylinders to antique machines, however, calls for a bit of basic knowledge. RARE Edison Model N Phonograph Reproducer large diaphragm for 4 minute records. Special horns were made specifically for these little machines, first a small conical one without bell, painted black with a gold stripe, then a larger (but still small-scale) black horn with 10 panels. "Under the hood," the Home was quite different from the Triumph, as it was always a single-spring machine, and its motor design went through numerous modifications early on before settling into a form that remained stable from Model B onward. A good service technician can correct this problem fairly easily, perhaps replacing the old bearing with a new one of brass. Primarily Edison blue amberol cylinders, but also Columbia/Indestructable and those of other, smaller makers. That said, the would-be buyer should be aware of one inherent flaw: the models without end gates incorporated a pot metal bearing at the left end of the mandrel, and over time, as is the nature of pot metal, it can swell or deteriorate, causing speed inconsistency or even freezing up the machine. I am going to buy my first phonograph in 2 weeks, after i get my paycheck in. 65,000. The Edison Home phonograph outwardly appears to be a scaled-down Triumph, although its introduction in 1895 coincided with the Spring Motor and predated the introduction of the Triumph name. Earlier carrier arms placed the reproducer pointing up at about 45 degrees from the plane of the machine's bedplate; later ones set the reproducer horizontally, parallel the bedplate and running over the top of the cylinder in play, with a larger eye (that is, mounting socket). . 2022 - WorthPoint Corporation | 5 Concourse Parkway NE, Suite 2900. Additional information: EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH . Enter US $350.00 or more [ 0 bids] As was the custom for Edison's two-minute cylinders, mostly abandoned with the introduction of their four-minute successors, a spoken announcement--probably by the singer himself--precedes the singing. for a Model D Gem, to allow a reproducer with a. Item Information. Most collectors focus on phonographs made in their own country. Only one antique Edison phonograph, the Model D Standard, was ever equipped out of the factory with such a horn. . Like antique vehicles, phonographs can be divided into five classifications: (1) parts phonographs with the only value being salvageable tubes and other parts; (2) restorable phonographs; (3) playable phonographs; (4) amateur restoration phonographs, and (5) professionally restored phonographs. 120311 EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH . Introduction: Something similar could be (and, for all I know, may have been) done for Edison cylinder phonographs--they ran in families. It is often the first Edison phonograph acquired by collectors. you are looking at the first version of edison's standard phonograph with the teething trouble of a 2-clip suspension removed: a 1899 square-top 4-clip model a standard, equipped with an automatic reproducer and automatic recorder, both with glass diaphragm and sapphire stylus, and appropriate 14-inch "funnel" type horn, in perfectly working Entdecke Antike Motorfeder, Teile Edison Heimzylinder Phonograph in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Like Amberola, Standard is a brand name for a cylinder phonograph manufactured by the Edison Phonograph Works. Click on the results to view more details AU $404.68 + AU $107.42 postage. Edison Standard Phonograph, Type D This Edison Standard Phonograph played 2- and 4-minute wax cylinders. Edison Standard Phonograph - with Model 'C' Reproducer. The paint can be removed without further removing the original pinstriping. EDISON STANDARD TYPE D CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH: EDISON STANDARD CYLINDER ROLL PHONOGRAPH: Model "A" Edison Standard Phonograph, no. drive belt. A phonograph divides into components, primarily (1) the cabinet or covering housing the mechanism, (2) the mechanism, which includes the stylus and needle, (3) the power speaker(s), and (4) the power source if electrically driven. The "Square top Standard", often incorrectly named "Flat Top" or "Suitcase Standard" is the first phonograph to carry the Edison trademark design and the only Edison machine with flat top lid (the "Square top Gem" cabinets were not manufactured by Edison). Eventually, the serial number was added to the bedplate. Primary Model By Edison. It must be playable (although some parts may be replaced) and in very good or better condition. 1905 Era Model B "Edison Standard Phonograph" 2 min/4 min- plus Extras. The case has been degreased and hand-polished with Mohawk products. Atlanta, Georgia 30328 | 877.481.5750, Bell & Howell Film Cameras Having a Resurgence, From Moon Maps to Sewing Kits: Tiny Antique Globes and Beyond with Jake Moore, Dusting Off a Little History: Spring Type Phonographs, Spotters Guide to the Edison Standard Phonograph. Your Edison Home Model D was equipped (either from the factory for later by a dealer) with a Cygnet horn, as evidenced by the . N-120 Sapphire Shank Stylus for Edison DD Records $ 59.50 $ 50.00 RS-50 Fifty RECORD SLEEVES (folders, jackets, sleeves) for 10" 78s $ 25.00 N-105 NEEDLES (50) for 78 rpm PHONOGRAPHS $ 3.00 An Edison Standard Phonograph, Model C, No. $100. Times and tastes change. Sales of this model never approached those of the Amberola 30; accordingly, given its relative scarcity, bigger horn, and stronger motor, the Amberola 50 sells for more today, with oak cabinets carrying a premium over the more common mahogany ones. Antique EDISON Cylinder Phonograph Horn Crane Unusual Form Clips In Lid Lock. Please consider this nice clean 2 minute Edison Standard Model B phonograph circa 1906. It is not the most practical machine for good cylinder reproduction, and, oddly enough, although the cheapest in the Edison line originally, good examples of the Gem tend to be a bit pricey today, particularly the late ones painted maroon. A few of the earlier Amberola models, outside the scope of this series of articles, could be fitted with a two-minute reproducer; for more information, consult the Internet or the reference book The Edison Cylinder Phonographs 1877-1929 by George L. Frow and Albert F. Sefl. Models include the A (round top case), A-2 clip, A-4 clip, B, C, D, E, F, and G. The type of horn impacts value. In general. I have a two clip case where someone added some extra hooks for safety. The horn shown in the pictures is a "funnel type" horn, that is more appropriate than a bell-shaped witch's hat horn. Those who bought the earlier version with the round weight could return it to the factory for trimming; on such reproducers, "Model O" was overstamped to read "Model Q." This automatic reproducer is perfectly usable for Gold-Moulded Records, coming up in 1902, and according to ref.1 is valued at $250-300, but sells in fact for much more (see EBay item 320526402520, which sold for $440 recently). In addition to the actual phonograph, collectors also seek advertising, banners, booklets, brochures, catalogs, instructions, magazine advertisements, manuals, pamphlets, postcards, posters, promotional giveaways and merchandise, schematics, and signs. Thomas Edison Amberola 50 Phonograph, c. 1920, Sm- 41650, mahogany case with fabric-backed front grill, hinged dome-top lid, model "C" reproducer, helical gear drive, brass plaque inside lid, together with a copy of the complete index of blue. The Antique Phonograph Society is a worldwide organization of people with a common passion for the preservation of antique phonographs, gramophones and records. The same mechanism is often found in a variety of cabinet designs. First, it established the tracking force for the stylus. The early carriage is prepared to adapt a shaver attachment and has the mechanics to adapt the standard speaker introduced in 1889 , which could be aligned for tracking. Its essentials were all contained in a compact metal case, although the company fairly soon added an oak base and cover. The so-called "cygnet" horns, which rose vertically rather than jutting out horizontally (and were of the form commonly adopted for the early radio sets 15 or 20 years later), were some improvement, particularly when made of wood, but not a real solution; they still gathered dust, and they still called far too much attention to themselves. Edison Standard Phonograph Parts (1 - 1 of 1 results) Price ($) Shipping Antique - Vintage - Rarest of Rare 1870's Edison Cylinder Phonograph. An Edison Standard phonograph model B No. The floating weight has a tail that sticks out beyond the outer edge of the reproducer housing; look for "Model C" stamped on it. New Jersey late 19th, EDISION CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH, Standard model, Edison ''Suitcase'' Standard Phonograph Automatic, AN EDISON CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH, Standard model. Great example of the 4 clip (Name by the 4 clips on the case) early model "A" standard phonograph. horn crane (support for horn) PROPERLY SERVICED Edison Model-B Phonograph Reproducer. Its catalogue number 15302 puts it in Edison's German series; experienced collectors know that Edison relegated a surprising number of important artists to this and other "ethnic" series rather than featuring them in the main "classical" or "operatic" catalogue blocks. Explore over 425 Million sold for prices with item details and images. Edison's approach to an enclosed machine was somewhat different from Victor's, in that instead of building a roughly horn-shaped chamber into the cabinet, he simply curled the metal horn of an open-horn type machine, or at least a shortened version of it, around the other way to pass under the mechanism and have its bell below rather than above the motor and playing gear, concealed by a decorative grille. TheVintageStoreking $1,299.00 FREE shipping 1 Common Questions It has a dark wood cabinet and a round top with handel. This will provide many decades of enjoyment and is a fine antique to have in your home. The Amberolas 30, 50, and 75, on the other hand, can play only four-minute celluloid cylinders. The Standard was in general the strongest seller in the Edison line from its introduction in 1898. Edison Home Phonograph - Model A (1904) 5,345 views Sep 26, 2013 40 Dislike Share Save Stanford Archive of Recorded Sound 280 subscribers This is the third series in the Model A family. Labels the name of each part with a corresponding number so that it is easily identifiable. Absolutely stunning condition, the machine comes with both a small black and brass horn, as well as a magnificent large morning glory horn and crane set. Identify your Standard Phonographs Marks. Maroon finish carrier arm with large aperture eye. This piece is an older Model. Current examples, costing far less than the Archeophone, are the Edison Electric Cylinder Reproducer sold here http://www.soundhifi.com/78rpm.html and the ACT/2 unit sold here http://nipperhead.com/old/act/#orders. Dec 31, 2022 Edison Standard Phonograph. Edison Home Phonograph. ref.1: http://www.edisonshop.com/reproducers/ducer.html Edison Standard models changed consumer demands and tastes. It was made between 1908 and 1911. Any of the open horn machines fitted with the common Edison Model C reproducer, standard equipment on many of them, is fine for any cylinder of these types. Model D came out in October 1908, at the same time the first 4-minute. Rare hard to find part. Edison Standard Model B Cylinder Phonograph w/ Crank. It utilised the same cabinet as the Amberola III cylinder machine. and here to myusedvancouver shop Edison Standard Model B Cylinder Phonograph w/ Crank. Many phonographs manufactured outside the United States used mechanisms based upon licenses received from United States manufacturers. Some of the low-boy consoles take cranks that are very long, and this one will not fit. The late models F and G reduced the number of springs from three to two. Some dealers refinish phonographs and sell them as decorative accessories. You can safely play these with any equipment listed for wax four-minute cylinders. It was durable and easy to maintain. As events would show, Edison moved too fast to eliminate the 2-minute function -- clients were unhappy about the change, and Edison soon brought the 2-minute function BACK in the Model F Standard. Find the Value of your Standard Phonographs. together with, Edison Standard Phonograph 1910. Edison Standard Phonograph - with Model 'C' Reproducer. One of the most noticeable details of the machine is the gold pinstriping which can be seen around the outside of the 'bedplate'. The reproducer had a very early copper diaphragm (4 instead of 7 waves), which however cannot be original, since copper was used not until 1907, if I am right. The mechanics have totally been overhauled as well as the reproducer (Model C). My phonograph is a 1899 4-clip Standard Model A square-top model with straight end-gate. Initially, serial numbers were embossed on the bedplate. $375.00 + $40.00 shipping. Spotters Guide to the Edison Standard Phonograph www.antiquephono.org. EDISON STANDARD CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH & CYLINDERS: 4439 - "Edison Standard Phonograph" Cylinder, Edison Model H 4-Minute Standard Phonograph. One dedicated modern cylinder player has been marketed, the Archeophone; it features, among other things, interchangeable mandrels for just about every type of cylinder ever issued and an ingenious bearing system to correct for out-of-round records. Edison Standard models changed consumer demands and tastes. portrait of mr. edison frontispiece standard electric phonograph, type m 8, 14 standard spring motor phonograph 16 phonograph body 18, 20 electric motor 24 electric governor 27 putting on cylinder 31 recording position 31 reproducing position 32 position for shaving 34 edison spring motor 40, 43 portable primary and storage batteries 48 primary Edison Standard Cylinder Phonograph Model Bedplate - 4 Available! My own first cylinder machine was of this type: a Standard Model B, fitted with a large, nickel-plated "morning glory" horn and geared strictly for two-minute cylinders until, through the magic of eBay, I added a gear shift kit years later. THOMAS EDISON HOME CYLINDER PLAYER PHONOGRAPH W/HORN. Let's now turn our attention to those more readily available players. Without going into excessive detail, suffice it to say that Edison's design for reproducers involved a so-called "floating weight" that served two purposes. Here's a two-minute wax cylinder played back on my Edison Triumph, Model B, fitted with trimmed-weight Model O reproducer and Musicmaster oak cygnet horn. Hello folks. You are looking at the first version of Edison's Standard Phonograph with the teething trouble of a 2-clip suspension removed: a 1899 Square-Top 4-Clip Model A Standard, equipped with an Automatic Reproducer and Automatic Recorder, both with Glass Diaphragm and Sapphire Stylus, and appropriate 14-inch "Funnel" type Horn, in perfectly working condition. EDISON HOME PHONOGRAPH Version ca 1904-1909 Single spring motor. An Edison Standard Phonograph that uses wax cylinders. Price. This Edison Standard Phonograph played 2- and 4-minute wax cylinders. There are a total of nine different patent plates with various patent numbers. Edison HOME Model B Cylinder Phonograph Serial number 227703, c 1907 Shown here are some pictures of a very nice Edison HOME model B cylinder phonograph made about 1907. As a result, many variations, including using mahogany instead of oak for the case, and models using a nickel horn exist. Thanks to Mike Wohl of the Talking Machine Forum for the photograph. Antique Edison Home Phonograph Model D 1903 Cylinder. AU $543.01. The Edison models of choice would be the Model A or Model B, both early and likely to be expensive. Edison Model H 4-Minute Standard Phonograph Edison Model H 4-Minute Standard Phonograph with 65 cylinders, c. 1905: phonograph comes in oak case with removable domed lid, black enamel plate marked Part two of a two volume set by Keith Harrison and Tim Wood-Woolley, with a pictorial history of Edison's Purple Amberols, the artists who performed on them, and the music recorded. What is the Value of Standard Phonographs? Also produced over the years have been various "reproducer substitutes," which mount a more or less modern electric cartridge in a shell matching the dimensions of an Edison reproducer; remove the reproducer from an antique player's carrier arm, affix the substitute in its place, connect it to a modern amplifier's phono preamp, crank up that old clockwork motor, and--behold!--you can play cylinders through your modern stereo system. The Edison Phonograph Works introduced the Standard in early 1898, a significant breakthrough in the "middle income" phonograph market. (displays a limited sampling of the millions of priced results in our database), many more examples with full details are available to our members - Learn more, Late 19th C. Thomas A. Edison Home Phonograph, Edison Phonograph Edison Standard Phonograph, EDISON PHONOGRAPH. 114317, Model C reproducer, green oak case with lid, aluminum horn, with crank, spring motor works, needs cleaning, with 12 cylinders. The early Standards also had a built-in shaver, which however was not a very useful device, since the motor turned out to be too weak to do shaving. Looking at the Edison Model D. Consulting Ebay, i saw several listings that fit my budget and criteria, however my knowledge is still very limited. Here we go to myeBayauctions (stay tuned) An Edison standard phonograph circa 1905, THOMAS A. EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH CYLINDER, Edison Home cylinder phonograph circa 1904, EDISON HOME CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH: Serial number, Edison Standard cylinder phonograph in dome, A L 19th/E 20th C Edison Standard Phonograph, Your browser does not support the audio element. As a practical matter, at the outset you probably won't find many brown wax cylinders in playable condition outside specialist sales channels; accordingly, especially if you are just beginning, you can safely postpone equipment for brown wax cylinders until you've built a good collection of later types. This was the first phonograph to bear the Edison trademark design. This volume completes the range of this excellent but short-lived series of records. Edison Standard cylinder phonograph When seen at an Edison dealer's shop, it must have seemed pretty plain compared to the often flamboyant cabinets of the Edison disc phonographs, which appeared on the market beginning about a year before its introduction. The first Standard "S" phonograph had a square-top lid, held with two clips to the cabinet, the 1899 second version Standard "A" square-top had 4 clips. One of the first of the "new Edison disc phonographs" introduced in about April 1914 at a price of $150, this was the only disc phonograph carry the oxidised bronze diamond disc reproducer. This little tabletop model was the workhorse of the Amberola line, easily outselling both its larger counterparts combined. Time left: 5d 12h | Starting bid: US $375.00 [ 0 bids] $289.00 + $13.46 shipping. The Edison Phonograph Works was very responsive to its customers. The Amberola 75 was in essence an Amberola 50 in an austere, compact floor model cabinet. Plays the Edison two (2) minute cylinders. The turn-of-the-twentieth-century housewife, confronted with a roughly yard- (or, for our metric friends, meter-) long metal horn--no matter how dolled up with colorful paint or brass bell and fittings or nickel plating or flower decorations--was apt to see not a handsome statement piece but an obtrusive, dustcatching monstrosity conflicting with her beautifully decorated Victorian-style living room, constantly in the way when trying to sit on the sofa. Here's a basic rundown of what equipment is suitable for which common types of cylinders. Click to enlarge. You can see a photograph of this machine above. Later versions came in a golden oak case. The Standard was made between 1898 and 1913. Model D, with a US introduction of October 1908, was the first to offer factory-installed gearing for both two- and four-minute cylinders, a feature that would persist until release of the October 1912 Model G, which was geared for four-minute cylinders only; coincident with the release of the Model D, Edison made conversion kits available to add four-minute gearing to earlier models. Comes with a very nice stand that also appears antique. A split in the square-top plate has been reglued and filled. ref.3: http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/phonograph/collection.htm Edison Standard Phonograph Parts - Etsy join a community doing good. We have a wide variety here on the site! A year later, the Edison Standard Phonograph was produced, and then exhibited in the press in 1898. Nicolai, in a heartfelt performance by operatic baritone Robert Leonhardt around 110 years ago. Leaving aside latter day electronic solutions or improvisations, the way most collectors play cylinders is acoustically through horns, as they were designed to play, on the old machines designed to play them, no electricity involved. As with the Triumph, it would appear in models A through G; as with the Home, it was equipped with a single-spring motor. 125.00 + 25.00 P&P. Edison " 2 / 4 minute conversion kit for Edison " Gem . A mechanical reproducer with a sapphire stylus and small metal diaphragm converted the grooves on the cylinder into sound, and the sound was amplified by a 30-inch long horn made of 10 petals of thin metal. Models include the A (round top case), A-2 clip, A-4 clip, B, C, D, E, F, and G. The type of horn impacts value. 769262, with Model C reproducer, banner transfer, re-finished Cygnet horn painted to resemble grained wood with replaced Edison Cygnet transfers, metal crane and approximately 42 cylinders, cased -39in. Phonographs are collected internationally. Four-minute black wax. About my phonograph: AU $882.94 Have a look at my parallelauction of a 1908 business phonograph. The Edison Standard Phonograph Combination Type (Type D) was produced between October 1908 and November 1911. Edison Standard Phonograph Serial Number: 410674 Condition: Very good working order. These were the first Edison Phonographs with the capability to play both 2-minute and the brand-new 4-minute cylinder records. A cloth-backed wooden grille covered the horn, with no provision for adjusting volume. Original 4 Min Reproducer Model N for Edison Phonograph. Phonograph manufacturers offered dozens of different models. But for common UPRIGHT machines such as the C-19 (B-250), S-19, H-19, C-150, etc., etc., this crank is correct. The first version had a boxy case with suitcase type clips. Edison "GEM" Model B Phonograph, c. 1900. ref.2: http://www.nps.gov/edis/index.htm Item Information. The Edison phonograph was introduced in early 1898 and was considered a breakthrough for bridging the gap between cost and accessibility. Antique Edison Home Phonograph Model D 1903 Cylinder $145.50 6 bids $102.95 shipping 1d 14h EDISON FIRESIDE PHONOGRAPH, 4 Minute EXCELLENT CONDITION $363.00 13 bids $79.86 shipping 5d 3h Antique Edison Amberola 30 Phonograph Cylinder Music Player w/18 music Cylinders $197.50 2 bids $43.94 shipping 4d 4h As with the Triumph, the feed screw is an extension of the mandrel axle. As along ago as 1856 an instrument was made which was capable of automatically registering sounds but it was left to Edison 20 years later to introduce the first complete phonograph (record player) T model:pVL4B4322 Our regular price32.84 $$ Like any good story, this one has subplots: an eventual shift from sapphire to diamond for the styli and a shift from small to larger diaphragms, requiring larger reproducer bodies, and hence redeisgned carrier arms, to accommodate them. Edison Standard Phonograph Directions for setting up and operating an Edison Standard cylinder phonograph. Four-minute celluloid. Edison Standard Phonograph Type 4 serial number S137680 . A lever at the front of the turntable controls a muff ball at the center of the speaker that muffles the sound for lower volume. The Disc Phonograph and the Edison Discs were designed to be an entire system, incompatible with other discs or disc players. In 1890 he had bought his company back from ill Jesse H. Lippincott [1842-1894], and after declaring bankruptcy in 1894, and thereby also getting back his rights on the phonograph, he started to build first machines for the home entertainment market, the "Class M Home" (1893), the "Amet Motor" (1895), the "Spring Motor" (1896), the "Home" (1897), the "Standard" (1898) and the "GEM" (1899) phonographs, the technically limited GEM selling for 7.50$ only. and here to mywebsite (permanently under construction). Amberola 30 It comes with an automatic reproducer introduced in 1892, which does not need alignment anymore, and a matching automatic recorder. Today, I imagine most of us see an old phonograph with a big metal or wooden horn suspended in front and think it charming. $242.00 + $7.85 shipping. For louder reproduction, you can play them with the Diamond B on those open horn machines fitted with the horizontal, larger eye type carrier; do not play any wax record with this heavily weighted reproducer, which, as you mgiht guess from its model name, substituted a diamond stylus for the sapphires of its precedessors. Comes complete with a black/Brass 14 inch horn. [ Home | Staff & Contacts | HiFi Playground | Listening tests | DIY & Tweakings | Music & Books ], Author: David Hoehl - TNT USA Introduced around 1898. Edison Standard Phonograph Restoration A few years ago, I bought an old, inoperable, and dismantled Edison Standard 'Model A' Phonograph off eBay, and I have since been meticulously restoring it. 50OFF . 2 Edison Phonographs. Now it's time to look at some specifics. He called his invention a phonograph. In. $574.00 . Fitted with 2/4-minute gearing, a flipover Model O combination reproducer, and one of the deluxe wooden cygnet horns, it is a workhorse capable of giving the best reproduction to be had from a mainstream cylinder player. I'll stress again: do not play wax cylinders, including these four-minute types, on an Amberola 30, 50, or 75. Primarily Edison "amberol" cylinders. Also a 7 inch diameter horn with brass. View more in our Standard Phonographs Price Guide. The new style case of 1901 was in a green oak case with banner decal. The Model A types wound with a key, Models B through E with a crank. Discovering Antique Phonographs by Timothy C. Fabrizio and George F. Paul. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . I want one that will play both 2 minute and four minute cylinders. The story of Edison reproducers, then, is one of ever heavier floating weights as the company developed harder materials for the records. Most of the Germans belong to the age group 50+. It was a durable machine and sold well. (129 x 35.5 x 58 cm) from Maynards Fine Art & Antiques on December 3, 0122 9:00 PM PST. These early model standards were housed in a square case versus the rounded cases of later production. It is not restained nor relaquered. Nickel-plated, exactly like the original. There are no screws, or other small parts included with these bedplates. The cabinet, then, was just a shell to contain the machinery, not an integral part of it, a key distinction in avoiding Victor's patents. Dusting Off a Little History: Spring Type Phonographs Published by Phonograph Collectables. It was a small, single-spring machine in oak. For example, Edison invented the world's first machine to record and reproduce sound in 1877. It. The Edison Phonograph Works discontinued cylinder phonographs, including the Standard, in 1913. Early machines came with listening tubes. Nice 1899 Edison Standard Phonograph, Early 4-Clip Squaretop Model A, with Automatic Reproducer, Automatic Recorder, and Appropriate Funnel Type Horn, in Museum-like Condition, In a Nutshell Back when such horns were the sole common method for filling a room with sound, however, they were much more likely to run afoul of something chillingly familiar to any latter-day male audiophile who shares quarters with a female partner: WAF ("wife acceptance factor"). $375.00 + $111.50 shipping. Price: $3.00 Combination Attachment for Edison Standard Phonograph Two-minute--brown wax. By the end of 1912, three basic models of the Edison Disc Phonograph had been designed, ranging in price from $150 to $250, and the company salesmen took them around the country. As was customary, the normal finish was oak, with mahogany being a rarely if ever selected special-order option for some models. Among these are Edison's "gold moulded" cylinders, Indestructable's celluloid two-minute cylinders, and black wax cylinders by Columbia and various smaller makers. Edison Standard Phonograph - with Model 'C' Reproducer. EDISON CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH, HORN & CYLINDERS: PHONOGRAPH - Edison Standard cylinder phonograph, PHONOGRAPH - Oak cased table top Edison Standard, EDISON CYLINDER PHONOGRAPH WITH HORN, Standard. Edison Standard Suitcase 4 Clip Phonograph with Automatic model B Reproducer. A Non-Profit Public Educational Engineering Museum. After inventing the phonograph Edison lost interest and worked for his incandescent light bulb. The reproducer used was in the beginning the "Standard Speaker", which could also be used for recording. Johnson coined the name "Victrola" by combining "Victor," his company's name, with "viola," the musical instrument, but promptly everybody who could figure out how to dodge his patents (not an easy task; even those swinging doors over the horn opening were patented) had a competing "-ola": in particular, Columbia's open horn "Disk Graphophone," a descendant of the cylinder (simply) "Graphophone," mutated into the "Grafonola" (with louvers rather than the patented swinging doors to cover that horn opening), and, of most concern for our present purposes, Edison issued an enclosed-horn cylinder player for his four-minute Amberol cylinders called--what else?--the "Amberola." It featured Edison's largest case, by default in oak although some models could be had on special order in mahogany, for most of the model run fitted with Edison's most powerful cylinder phonograph motor, the three-spring "Triton." Two-minute--black wax, celluloid. Has a new mainspring. My sister has a table-model Edison phonograph and a lot of 1/2" thick records. Another characteristic feature of these early Standards is their straight horizontal end-gate. The Phonograph and How to Use It by Thomas Edison, Inc. The Edison Standard is the basic entry-level cylinder phonograph for collectors. Around 1901 the 14" brass and black horn became standard on many models, with larger horns optional at extra cost. The plate also may contain the model and serial number. These earlier cylinders were made of a softer material than their black wax successors, and accordingly the appropriate reproducers for them have lighter weights. It was made between 1908 and 1911. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of a recording system is in the listening. 543698, with model C reproducer, ICS repeater attachment and plaque, home-made horn and Columbia winder ; Picture Information. This piece includes the case with lid and crank. As a practical matter, you are extremely unlikely to encountner a Triumph in other than oak today. Item Details. The Triumph, a direct development of the Edison Spring Motor Phonograph that had been on the market since 1895, was the top of Edison's regular line of phonographs for home consumption from its introduction in 1901 until the discontinuation of open horn phonographs in late 1913. Bid Amount - Enter US $350.00 or more. The original gift includes 58 commercial recording cylinders: 25 Edison Gold Moulded (2 minute) and 33 Edison Amberol (4 minute) cylinders. A Standard likely will cost less and is significantly more phonograph, with a better motor and capacity to handle larger horns. An "S" preceded the number until around serial number 384,000. This is a two-minute machine. Includes a brass witches hat horn. The D-models of the Edison Standard, Home, and Triumph were introduced in October 1908. We encourage everyone who is interested in these wonderful machines and recordings from the past to join us by enjoying and contributing to our organization. Bid now on Invaluable: An Edison floor model A250 dark oak cased phonograph, 51 x 21 x 22 3/4 in. 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